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Asyraf36



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PostSubject: ASL   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:52 am

ASL has 3 basic component which is hand configuration; the shape that the hand form, place of articulation; where in space the hand is formed and movement; how the hand moves

ASL word structure are different in meaning from one another, but also words that are very much related, differing only in morphology. English may derived from one word, for example, from the word compare it can be derived to cmpared,comparing, compares and comparism. such morphological changes also happen in an ISL such as ASL. By adjusting the movement of a sign by changing the speed or tension or rate of repetition gives ISL signers the ability to derives word
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PostSubject: A brief understanding on learning ASL   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:53 am

-Describe strategies for identifying and using new signs in ASL by recombining
morphemes.
-Demonstrate an understanding of the syntax of ASL. For example:
- Demonstrate an understanding of the rules that govern the formation of phrases and
sentences (e.g., the use of classifiers and classifier predicates).
- Demonstrate an understanding of the significance of sign order in ASL.
- Identify ways in which syntactic patterns in ASL can be used to convey nuances of
meaning.

there you have it! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:53 am

Mia Shamsudin wrote:
yes peah.. they teach chimpanzee to learn a language by using sign language.. and now i really curious to know if we can also teach others animal to communicate using sign language.. need to study more.. study Sleep lol!

i use phonology to speak with my cat Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:54 am

JO-3 wrote:
I used to think I was able to use an ISL, but turns out I was wrong. A sign language is a true language, a language of its own. Users of American Sign Language might not understand users of the British Sign Language, suprisingly! And apparently using that one specific finger is not part of ISL. It's something universal that the whole world understands.  rabbit

this means that they wont reach mutual understanding Question
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:56 am

SyuhadaRodzali wrote:
facial expression do contribute in ASL.. different facial expression Very Happy Smile Sad Surprised Shocked Cool Laughing Mad Razz Embarassed Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Wink , different meaning...




Nice one syuuuu Very Happy[b]
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:56 am



nadia_balqis

wohoho...seriously??? Shocked Shocked Shocked





yes, i just read it at an article.. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:56 am

SyuhadaRodzali wrote:
facial expression do contribute in ASL.. different facial expression Very Happy Smile Sad Surprised Shocked Cool Laughing Mad Razz Embarassed Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Wink , different meaning...

lol! i likeeeeeeeeeee Smile
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PostSubject: Characteristics of ISL   Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:57 am

There are 3 characteristic of ISL:
(i) hand configuration
(ii) place of articulation
(iii) movement

(i) hand configuration - is where shapes are formed by using the hand to form words to express thoughts. For example, to show the alphabet "c", the hand shape is shown like a "c ".

(ii) place of articulation - is where the position of the hand takes into consideration. For example the hand position might be higher when expressing a word from a statement, while it will be lower when trying to express a word from a question.

(iii) movement - is where the movement of the hand are take into account. Different movement made by the hand expresses different words.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:35 pm

the characteristics of ISL are the hand configuration where different shape of the hand forms were used to represent different meaning. the place of articulation in ISL refers to the space of the hands is formed and the movement of the hands also is a part of the characteristics of ISL. example of ISL is American sign language(ASL), the word order is relatively free without SVO order and the movement and speed gives ASL signers the ability to derive nouns from verbs. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Video on ASL   Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:10 am




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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:58 am

HI ALL! i will just try to type down the characteristic of ASL ya?

ASL cannot be used simultaneously with speech. i think this is because to avoid confusion. for example, if a person is trying to use ASL and at the same time talking, it will make him or her confuse on how to do the signs. that is what i think. what do you guys think?Very Happy
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PostSubject: ISL Word Structure   Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:50 am

English words like "beauty, beautiful, beautifully", which are closely related, only differ in morphology also have their equivalent in ISL Idea

For example, ASL signers change the
Laughing speed/
Razz tension/
tongue rate of repetition of a sign to show the changes in morphology.

But, there is also uninflected forms of signs that can be defined by
Shocked feature of place
rabbit configuration
cyclops movement

Although ASL has typical verbs that are marked morphologically for agreement in person and number with subject and object,
ASL word order are relatively free (with an unmarked Subject-Verb-Object order).
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PostSubject: ISL Features   Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:51 am

Independent Sign Language (ISL) has three main characteristics:
Laughing Hand configuration
Neutral Place of articulation
Wink movement


Hand configuration
= the shape that the hand forms

Place of configuration
= where in space the hand is formed

Movement
= how the hand moves
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PostSubject: Examples of ISL   Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:55 am

bom American Sign Language (ASL)

Sleep Taiwanese Sign Language

Shocked French Sign Language

santa Korean Sign Language

jocolor Japanese Sign Language

cherry Italian Sign Language

geek Irish Sign Language

scratch Russian Sign Language

study Dutch Sign Language

afro Spanish Sign Language

queen Mexico Sign Language

Idea Brazilian Sign Language

rendeer Austrian Sign Language

confused Thai Sign Language
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:22 pm

Independent Sign Languages has 3 basic components. That are hand configuration, place of articulation and movement.
Example of ISLs are ASL and BSL.

ASL also known as American Sign Language. ASL is a sign language that uses hands, arms, head, facial expression and body langauge. This sign language is a sign of speaking without sound. ASL is the dominant sign language for the deaf in US, some parts of Canada and some regions of Mexico.

BSL is British Sign Language. BSL is used in United Kingdom and used by the deaf people in UK. This type of sign language uses space and involves movement of the hands, boday, head and face. Those who are not deaf also use BSL to contact with the deaf.

p/s : somehow, i cannot really find the meaning of Independent Sign Languages in internet. scratch perhaps i key in the wrong key words or other reason. Razz
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PostSubject: Discussion 1 (Week 6)   Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:35 am

The signs of an Independant Sign Language (ISL) can be divided into three basic component:
For example:(1) hand configuration:the shape that the hand forms;
(2) place of articulation: where in space the hand is formed; and
(3) movement: how the hand moves.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:40 pm

Discuss the characteristic of Independent Sign Language (ISL). Give an example.

Sign languages have links to local spoken languages and are partly derived from them. For example British Sign Language (BSL) with spoken English.
Ideas can be represented by signs in a direct way without any contact with a spoken language. For example
pointing to oneself to indicate “I”. Signs can be expanded or combined – for example pointing to oneself and
in several places to the side
to indicate “we”. In theory, a sign language might develop entirely independently
of any spoken or written language and generate all the necessary means to express complex and abstract ideas
by combining and modifying existing signs. In practice, existing sign languages largely developed when
hearing people wanted to communicate with or educate the deaf. For this reason, a significant part of the
vocabulary of signs may be linked more or less closely to a particular spoken language. This would tend to
happen to a considerable extent with abstract words.

Other independent sign language:
British Sign Language (BSL)
American Sign Language
French Sign Language

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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:46 pm

Sign languages have links to local spoken languages and are partly derived from them. For example British Sign Language (BSL) with spoken English.

Ideas can be represented by signs in a direct way without any contact with a spoken language. For example pointing to oneself to indicate “I”. Signs can be expanded or combined – for example pointing to oneself and in several places to the side to indicate “we”.

In theory, a sign language might develop entirely independently of any spoken or written language and generate all the necessary means to express complex and abstract ideas by combining and modifying existing signs. In practice, existing sign languages largely developed when hearing people wanted to communicate with or educate the deaf. For this reason, a significant part of the vocabulary of signs may be linked more or less closely to a particular spoken language. This would tend to happen to a considerable extent with abstract words.

Other independent sign language:
British Sign Language (BSL)
American Sign Language
French Sign Language
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion 1 ( Week 6)   Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:08 pm

There are three basic characteristics of an Independent Sign Language. The first characteristics is, hand configuration which involved the shape that the hand forms. The second characteristics is the place of articulation, which focus on where the hand is formed. Other than that, how the hand moves,which also known as movement is also one of the characteristics of an Independent Sign Language. cheers
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PostSubject: ISL...   Thu May 17, 2012 6:12 am

Some of the characteristics of Independent Sign Language are;

-hand configuration
--->meaning the shape that the hands form
--->for example, shaping the hands into letters to signalling what is trying to be said.

-place of articulation
--->meaning where in space the hands are formed
--->for example, whether the 'words' or 'phrases' are formed at the middle of the chest or near to the chin

-movement
--->meaning how the hands move
--->for example, using sharp fast strokes to indicate anger or excitement
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